Subject: FW: B600 Wave Generator
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:40:44 -0500
From: "Zappia, Tim" <Tim.Zappia@mts.com>
To: "Ovsak, Grant" <Grant.Ovsak@mts.com>
CC: "Larson, Rod" <Rod.Larson@mts.com>

Here's the MTS-GmbH response.  It looks like we'll need to do some
rework to get reset.

How were we planning on signaling an e-stop reset?  I looked at the
wiring diagram that we sent to Berlin and I don't see anything that
explicitly says RESET.

Do we have the reset line available in the 498-to-starter box cable
(MS-Connector)?

Is it possible for the PLC to automatically do a RESET when it gets the
PUMP Start command?

Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wuestemann, Bernhard
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 7:15 AM
> To:   Zappia, Tim
> Subject:      RE: B600 Wave Generator
>
> Hello Tim,
> I didn't forget you But I was very busy in the last days.
> As you can see on the drawing you got, reset is not routed to the
> connector. And the other problem is that all pins in J1 are used.
> When we designed this starter box we decided that it is not necessary
> to have this input under remote controll. If there occurs an interlock
> anybody have to go to the HPU and have to look whats happen and on the
> way back he can press the reset button.
> If it is a must to have reset under remote control, I suggest to
> remove the MS connector an connect the wires direct to the big HARTING
> connector.
> Regards
> Bernhard
> Bernhard Wstemann
> mMTS Systems GmbH
> Hohentwielsteig 3   D - 14163 Berlin
> Tel.: +49 30 81002-201
> Fax:  +49 30 81002-100
> e-mail:       bernhard.wuestemann@mts.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zappia, Tim
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 9:04 PM
> To:   Wuestemann, Bernhard
> Subject:      RE: B600 Wave Generator
>
> Hello Bernhard,
>
> Have you made any progress on our problem?  We are planning on being
> on-site starting October 13th for 2 - 3 weeks and we want to be sure
> to have this problem taken care of.
>
> Thanks - Tim
>
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Wuestemann, Bernhard
>       Sent:   Tuesday, September 21, 1999 9:35 AM
>       To:     Zappia, Tim
>       Cc:     Ovsak, Grant
>       Subject:        RE: B600 Wave Generator
>
>       Hello Tim,
>       to your questions.
>       1)      Now it's clear for me what you mean with reset. Up to
> now I thought with reset you mean to switch off the pumps. Now we have
> a problem. Let me think about that.
>       2)      Normaly the HPU shutdown automatically when an
> over-temperature condition happens.
>       3)      I forwarded this message to the hydraulic people with an
> urgent mark.
>       I'll come back tomorrow.
>       Best regards
>       Bernhard Wstemann
>       mMTS Systems GmbH
>       Hohentwielsteig 3   D - 14163 Berlin
>       Tel.:   +49 30 81002-201
>       Fax:    +49 30 81002-100
>       e-mail: bernhard.wuestemann@mts.com
>
>
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From:   Zappia, Tim
>               Sent:   Tuesday, September 21, 1999 3:24 PM
>               To:     Wuestemann, Bernhard
>               Cc:     Ovsak, Grant
>               Subject:        RE: B600 Wave Generator
>
>               Hi Bernhard,
>
>               Thanks for your response.  A couple more questions:
>
>               1) We're still not clear on the reset condition.  When
> an e-stop condition occurs, either locally within the HPU, remotely
> from the controller, or when an e-stop button is pressed, will we be
> able to remotely reset the HPU's from the control computer without
> having to go down and physically reset the HPU Starter Boxes?
>
>               2) It seems to me that the over-temperature problem has
> to do with the logic of the PLC rather than the connector to the
> controller.  Shouldn't the HPU's automatically shutdown when an
> over-temperature condition happens?
>
>               3) I still haven't heard from your hydraulic people
> about the under pressure on the super-charge.  Can you try to push
> this along so we get it taken care of?
>
>               Thanks - Tim
>
>
>
>               Best Regards,
>
>
>               Tim Zappia
>               =======================
>               Project Engineer
>               MTS Systems Corporation
>               Advanced Engineering Solutions Division
>               14000 Technology Drive, Eden Prairie, MN 55344
>               Ph: (612) 937-4422
>               Fax: (612) 937-4515
>               e-mail: tim.zappia@mts.com
>
>
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From:   Wuestemann, Bernhard
>                       Sent:   Thursday, September 16, 1999 9:07 AM
>                       To:     Zappia, Tim
>                       Subject:        RE: B600 Wave Generator
>
>                       Hello Tim,
>                       here you get the drawing in PDF format.
>                       It was created with claris draw for PC's
>
>                        << File: 219 833 HPS adaptor J4 spec.pdf >>
>
>                       regards
>                       Bernhard Wstemann
>                       mMTS Systems GmbH
>                       Hohentwielsteig 3   D - 14163 Berlin
>                       Tel.:   +49 30 81002-201
>                       Fax:    +49 30 81002-100
>                       e-mail: bernhard.wuestemann@mts.com
>
>
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From:   Zappia, Tim
>                       Sent:   Wednesday, September 15, 1999 4:22 PM
>                       To:     Wuestemann, Bernhard
>                       Subject:        RE: B600 Wave Generator
>
>                       Hello Bernhard,
>
>                       We are having difficulty opening the attached
> file.  It came across as a ASCII Text file.
>                       Claris Draw is not typically used here.  If you
> can save the drawing to another format, perhaps DXF, it would be
> easier for us.    In any case, I need you to resend the drawing.
>
>                       Is this Claris Draw for a PC or Mac?
>
>                       Thanks - Tim
>
>
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From:   Wuestemann, Bernhard
>                       Sent:   Monday, September 13, 1999 4:00 AM
>                       To:     Zappia, Tim; Bretschneider, Raymond
>                       Subject:        RE: B600 Wave Generator
>
>                       Hello Tim;
>
>                       here you get the promesed drawing. I modified
> the drawing of the adaptor so you can see on one page whats necessary.
> You are able to start and stop the selected pumps with the pump
> run/stop contact.
>                       Please let me know if you agree.
>
>                       Thanks and best regards
>
>                       Bernhard
>
>                        << File: 219 833 HPS adaptor J4 spec.cdd >>
>
>                       It's a claris draw document
>
>
>                       Bernhard Wstemann
>                       mMTS Systems GmbH
>                       Hohentwielsteig 3   D - 14163 Berlin
>                       Tel.:   +49 30 81002-201
>                       Fax:    +49 30 81002-100
>                       e-mail: bernhard.wuestemann@mts.com
>
>
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From:   Zappia, Tim
>                       Sent:   Friday, September 10, 1999 10:34 PM
>                       To:     Wuestemann, Bernhard
>                       Subject:        RE: B600 Wave Generator
>
>                       Hi Bernhard,
>
>                       Thanks for your quick response.
>
>                       1) With your proposed fix, will we be able to do
> a remote reset and start of the HPU's?
>
>                       8)  Occasionally, when turning on the main power
> switch on the front of the Starter Box, one of the breakers inside the
> Starter Box (sorry I can't remember which one - I'll have a look at
> the drawings on Monday) switches off.  When this happened I opened the
> left side Starter Box door and reset the breaker switch.  It's appears
> that the initial power surge causes this breaker to switch off.
>
>                       Best Regards,
>
>                       Tim
>
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From:   Wuestemann, Bernhard
>                       Sent:   Friday, September 10, 1999 4:43 AM
>                       To:     Zappia, Tim
>                       Cc:     Bretschneider, Raymond; Elton, Stefan
>                       Subject:        RE: B600 Wave Generator
>
>                       Hello Tim,
>
>                       nice to hear from you. Since I heard nothing
> more from your side, I thought all problems are solved.
>                       Now I read that the complete remote control
> isn't working.
>
>                       Please read my comment to your e-mail.
>
>                       1a You will get two new adaptors. (The big
> Harting connector to our standard MS connector J1). Included in the
> wiring of the new adaptors will be the select inputs to the HPU PLC.
> You will get a drawing of the wiring of this adaptors and you will get
> a modified sketch that we got from your side (interface to remote
> control).
>                       Via pin B we provide the information HPS ON.
>
>                       1b So far I know pin D does not provide any
> information. Via pin D the HPU starter box supplies 24VDC to MTS
> electronic permanently. Start and Stop of the selected pumps is
> possible via pin H. Close contact to start the selected pumps and open
> the contact stop these pumps.
>
>                       2 - 3 You will find these singals with using the
> new adaptors.
>
>                       4 Overtemp should be detected with the new
> adaptors, too.
>
>                       6 You will get any lamps.
>
>                       8 Please explain what you mean. I don't
> understand this point
>
>                       9 Please see 1b
>
>                       5 and 7 I forwarded this e-mail to our hydraulic
> specialists. As far as I understand they will contact you to get more
> information about the described hydraulic problems.
>
>                       For conclusion:
>                       Please wait until you have got the two papers
> which I  announced above, have a look on it and then lets discuss the
> situation. The only news in this case are the under temp signal and
> the remote select function. All other functions are multiple tested in
> starter boxes for other customers. So in my mind it's not necessary to
> change the PLC program.
>
>                       Today im I am available till 12 o'clock, only.
>
>                       Best regards and have a nice weekend
>
>                       Bernhard Wstemann
>                       mMTS Systems GmbH
>                       Hohentwielsteig 3   D - 14163 Berlin
>                       Tel.:   +49 30 81002-201
>                       Fax:    +49 30 81002-100
>                       e-mail: bernhard.wuestemann@mts.com
>
>
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From:   Zappia, Tim
>                       Sent:   Thursday, September 09, 1999 5:12 AM
>                       To:     Wuestemann, Bernhard
>                       Cc:     Ovsak, Grant; Larson, Rod;
> Bretschneider, Raymond; Ruprecht, Joe
>                       Subject:        B600 Wave Generator
>
>                       Hello Bernhard,
>
>                       First, I would like to thank you for your help
> last May when we were trying to bring the B600 wave generator up.
> Your help was invaluable and greatly appreciated.  I apologize for not
> communicating with you earlier about our progress.  With your help, we
> were able to get the system going to the point where we could check
> out the actuators and run the system under high pressure.
>                       However, there are some problems with the system
> that need to be addressed and will need your support.  Much of the
> functionality that we specified for these pumps is missing, not
> working, or we don't understand its operation.  Here's the list:
>
>                       1)      The pumps can not be run remotely.
> Also, we are unable to remotely reset the pumps.  We need to be able
> to reset the pumps from the control computer.  HPU pin B is not
> carried through to the MS connector.  Without this pin we do not know
> the pumps on/off status and we can't provide a start signal from our
> control console.  From past experience, we believe this pin also
> resets the pumps e-stop chain.  Possible solutions we can think of
> are:
>                       a)      Wire and program this functionality the
> way it is normally done on all other pumps used in the U.S.
>                       b)      Make pin B a RESET signal and rely on
> pin D for pump status.
>                       2)      We are unable to detect HPU low level
> status.  HPU (pin J) is not carried through to the MS connector.
>                       3)      We are unable to detect HPU under
> temperature status. HPU (pins I and K) are not carried through to the
> MS connector.
>                       4)      The HPU's do not stop on an overtemp
> condition.
>                       5)      The HPU's were not set for low enough
> supercharge pressure when we brought both motors to high pressure.  On
> one of the HPU's we adjusted the low supercharge pressure switch and
> were able to get it to run.  On the other we tried to adjust it but
> became concerned that we were going to set it too low.  We need to
> have someone come who can set these pressures properly.  Why do you
> think they worked in MTS-GMBH for checkout and not in the field?
>                       6)      One of the Starter Boxes Local/Remote
> lamp is not working.
>                       7)      The thermostat on both HPU's leak.
>                       8)      One of the Starter Boxes PLC breaker
> turns off on when turning on the Starter Box main power switch (a cold
> start).
>                       9)      Please confirm that pin D goes from 24
> VDC to 0 VDC to indicate pump status.
>
>                       We will be returning to the site to complete
> installation on October 11th.  I would like to have you think about
> these problems and schedule to have someone come to the site to fix
> them while we have our electrical and control person available.  I'd
> like to do this on October 18th.   The person should be able to add
> pins to the Starter Box connector that connects to the MS connector,
> and reprogram the PLC's.
>
>                       I'm on travel and will be back in the office on
> Friday.  I'll try to give you a call then.
>
>                       Best Regards,
>
>
>                       Tim Zappia
>                       =======================
>                       Project Engineer
>                       MTS Systems Corporation
>                       Advanced Engineering Solutions Division
>                       14000 Technology Drive, Eden Prairie, MN 55344
>                       Ph: (612) 937-4422
>                       Fax: (612) 937-4515
>                       e-mail: tim.zappia@mts.com
>
>
